My God, Perth is boring. I am a 27 year old male professional. I worked back late last night, then caught up with a friend for a meal in the city. There was nothing open. Dont get me wrong, I love a good pub meal and a pint, but after that, there was nothing to do. We ended up going home.
This new development provides us with the perfect opportunity to mix business with pleasure. How many companies will be fighting to have their offices in Freo over looking one on the more beautiful quays in the world? Imagine finishing work and heading down to that bustling board walk? What are we so afraid of, people making noise? Gee, come on Perth, welcome to 2008 and live a little.
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I think your North Port Quay idea is excellent.
I am involved in the Hospitality industry, with interests on both the Hillarys and Mandurah marinas. They have both proved to be huge success stories and are extremely popular with tourist and local populations.
I can see that your development at Rous Head would provide a similar destination for those looking to enjoy all that beach front locations have to offer.
Well done and good luck.
Nick's Comment is so obviously fake and a set up ploy.
A stooge in the 'public audience' that is part of the development consortium presenting a fictious set up and trying to create false wants.
It smacks of a developer creating their own 'public comment'.
It's actually ugly marketing. But at least it is transparent because it's so obviously false.
Nick, if you exist, you are welcome to go and work in the mines, join the economic boom, then take your money to a problematic, false "Wally World", stink boat filled coastal development in Queensland and party all you like.
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Nick's original comment was submitted with his name and email address. 'beach swimmer' remains anonymous.
AW, c'mon ref! (Ms. Administrator comment)
What do you call that?
I went to "Nick's" comment. Clicked on the link to his blogger profile to try and confirm that "Nick" is less anonymous than me, and guess what?
The only added information we have about Nick not being anonymous is a Blogger profile that was started in June 2008, the same time as your web blog.
All you have suceeded in is heightening the scepticism.
You could at least clarify to the readers that Nick and my anonymity is on an equal footing.
Rather than possibly suggesting my comments have less meaning because I choose to make them anonymously.
If you want people's identities, rather than anonymous comments, then set up your blog that way.
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Nick's original comment was submitted with his name and email address. It was re-posted as a blog entry and as such show the administator's details - Nick's personal information was not published in accordance with our privacy policy.
The North Port Quay is the development that is required to keep us sandgropers moving with the times. As a born and bred residents of Perth's southern suburbs my wife and I believe it to be a truly magnificent idea. I am sure it will have it critics but it must also have it's supporters. Those who support this concept must rally behind this progressive concept. This is not a development for the rich but a development that will benefit the whole community. Look at this with an open mind and imagine going to a new and fresh coastal development on a Sunday with the family to soak up the most spectacular sunset in the world. For those that oppose it, how often do you currently use the proposed development site? Rather than same crappy rocks why not make our port another attraction. And if you don’t like it, don’t go to it.
C’mon my fellow residents of Perth, lets support development of our great lifestyle. It doesn’t have to be hussle and bussle but let’s at least enhance what we have.
Hey beach swimmer,
I believe 'corporate stooge' were your words and I'm sure you still apply them to me, not that it matters. You're right though we will never know, we might even be friends or aquantances.
I like a good verbal stoush about a lot of things but this just isn't the place for anything other than directly releating to the concept and it's impacts.
Send me link or another blog addy and we can go toe to toe on who is paranoid and who is misguided but let's not waste everyone elses tim e by doing it here.
What happened to the freedom of the net and the blog? Does beach swimmer only believe blogs that agree with him are the real deal? I'm a 49-year-old mother and desperate to keep my kids in Perth for the long haul - where is the lifestyle attraction that will make Perth a competitor to Sydney, London, New York? Sending anyone who wants a decent quality of life to a mine is missing the point big time.
Nick may be 27 and a fake, but I'm 24, born in Freo, and real. Wake up Perth! The people downplaying this development are those that have rarely ventured beyond our lovely state called Western Australia. If you go anywhere else in the world you'll see a thing called PROGRESS.
Sure, we don't necessarily want to become the next Dubai but Perth needs to invest in something that is actually going to work out for once. The Bell Tower scares people off rather than entices them here, and the Convention Centre is useful, but certainly not a tourist attraction of any sort.
I too sit at home on the weekends with my girlfriend wondering what to do. Northbridge is terrible, Fremantle is worse, and Subiaco is the size of a pea.
Here's my suggestion - forget asking all the older folk (including our dear Premier) for their opinions. They will not be around long enough to enjoy the development by the time it is finished. Survey the young people who will be living in Perth in the next 20 years and mobile enough to enjoy what this development would have offer.
I'm 100% behind it. All those against it should ask themselves:
a) Will I be around to enjoy it? If not - shut up and let those that will be have their say.
b) Do I care about my kids? If so - support the development because it will create new jobs and help grow the economy.
c) Am I being forced to spend time down at North Port Quay? Of course not - take off to Kalgoorlie or as far away as you like where the sound of people enjoying themselves in a cultural, progressive environment is at a minimum.
I'll be putting a post on my blog shortly about this - www.shipwrecksblog.com - stay tuned!
About Hillarys - it took years for it to get up and running to gain the popularity it has now and there is no guarantee that NPQ will provide the same level of success and popularity. Mindarie another location on the north shores is dead. It has four or five outlets that were frankly disappointing. My wife and I were there on Foundation Day and we were lucky to get a cup of coffee. Parts of NPQ could be like Mindarie, the developers cannot guarantee popularity at all.
One question - where is all the dirt coming from to reclaim the land? If you think it is coming from Cockburn Sound or Gage Roads - forget it!! The development would wreck the sound.
Next question: How do we accommodate the multitude of people visiting Nick's favourite night spots and drinking holes? Will the electric CAT buses stop at 6.00pm at night?
Next question. There seems to be one isolated lake. Could this become a cesspool?
Next question: How would the developers ensure that flushing of the marinaways do not pollute Cockburn Sound?
Next question: Would the developers be responsible for ALL infrastructure - water, power, sewerage, roads? Is the public purse being used to develop all headworks? Imagine the cost of putting in expanded water and sewerage pipelines, new high ways, and an extra high tension feeder line through to North Fremantle. The cost would run into tens of millions, resumptions etc.
There are too many uncertainties in this project - except one - it will make millioms for the developers.
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Live a little Nick says! Working 12 hour days and then going out for dinner and on to a night club sounds more dullsvile to me. If you like that life go live where you can live that life. WA has alot more to offer than that you just have to get out there. I Personally I love our beaches natural not stagnent "family frendly " ponds that one day we will probebly have to pay for like other "non-dullsville" places in the world.
I also dont understand how building on top of the ocean floor is going to help regenerate the sea grasses and marine life when there wont be any water under those buildings?
The only people that profit from any development are the developers.
I'm 20 living in the northern suburbs of perth, and to be honest i do agree with what nick said. To rb, i'd just like to say that of the questions we saw(as your comment was moderated) were great questions, but following up with "there are too many uncertainties" is jumping the gun by assuming that these questions don't have answers (however i too would love to be pointed in the direction of where i can find answers to you questions!). To lovewa i can only ask why anyone would be against such an improvement to the way of life in freo and perth. Sure, wa does have alot more to offer us than nightlife, but to say that nightlife shouldn't co-exist with all our other benefits is just so closed minded. saying "The only people that profit from any development are the developers." assumes that all anyone working in the area works for free, or that any of the workers/engineers/designers helping create the project work for free. I can tell you right now i don't think anyone is going to be working for free. I'm not debating that the developers will profit, but hey, everyone has to make a living, and assuming that they're making a living at your expense when you've given no real justification for this sentiment is unfair. I believe most of these sentiments were already expressed by shipwreak, but as you obviously chose not to read his comment, i thought id reinforce it a little for you.
Is everybody aware that there is a beach called Sand Tracks that is going to be wiped off the face of the earth with this project. Port and Leighton beaches are already overcrowded this will just make things worse. SAVE SAND TRACKS!
I agree with Paul & Deanne, i am a perthie thro and thro but after living abroad and travelling i came home looking forward to being back in WA and found that, Perth really is dullsville. It's stagnant, behind with the times and stubborn to embrace change. I'm young and i want to go out and socialise, but after 6 its a ghost town! Perth doesnt have to be a london or a new york, but it doesnt accurately reflect just how good it is to live here. Perth can be something more than what it is now. I hate to admit it but i do get embarassed to say that i am from perth cos people either don't know where it is , havent heard of it or are embarassed for me! I want my city, my state, to embrace plans such as the north port development and the perth foreshore redevelopment plan also and really put our great city on the map. I want to say I'm from perth and i'm proud and really mean it!!!! COME ON PEOPLE AND GET BEHIND MAKING THIS STATE THE BEST STATE TO LIVE IN!
--Jelena, Kardinya
The developers are just so concerned about "Perth's dullsville tag". It really is selfless of them, just wanting to show us all the light, thanks guys. Looks like a great development , really represents everything good about Fremantle with heaps of character and soul. This is not innovative development. You want to be innovative? Go build something in the desert where the land is useless, not on the ocean seabed. the fact that the profit margins won't be as high won't bother you, being so 'selfless' and all.
The draconian controls of the Fremantle city council on development and rigid adherance to preserving the "character" of Fremantle have led to development stagnation. Parts of Fremantle are now as lively as a morgue. I was born and grew up in Fremantle so do not suffer from the romantic illusions some "heritage" addicts seem to. This proposal is a breath of fresh air. The sand needed will probably come from a dredging of the harbour which has to occur to accomodate today's shipping. Why not dump it just outside the heads and do something creative with it as this development proposes. Preservation of the past for its own sake is reaching plague proportions in this country which seems so desperate for "heritage". When will we learn that our cultural heritage is dynamic change. I hope my children will not have to grow up in a stagnant museum. I wholeheartedly support this proposal.
Mike Nelson
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